Does Abraham's covenant include Ishmael?
According to Torah, muslims are NOT considered part of Abraham's spiritual covenant. Ishmael is BLESSED, yet the covenant is through Isaac, Sarah's son. The covenant consists of Abraham's commandment of CIRCUMCISION- which quran does NOT command on muslims.
Abrahams covenant: (Genesis.17:)
9 God said to Abraham, “As for you, you must keep my covenant, you and your descendants in every generation. 10 This is my covenant that you and your descendants must keep: Circumcise every male. 11 You must circumcise the flesh of your foreskins, and it will be a symbol of the covenant between us. 12 On the eighth day after birth, every male in every generation must be circumcised, including those who are not your own children: those born in your household and those purchased with silver from foreigners. 13 Be sure you circumcise those born in your household and those purchased with your silver. Your flesh will embody my covenant as an enduring covenant. 14 Any uncircumcised male whose flesh of his foreskin remains uncircumcised will be cut off from his people. He has broken my covenant.”
15 God said to Abraham, “As for your wife Sarai, you will no longer call her Sarai. Her name will now be Sarah. 16 I will bless her and even give you a son from her. I will bless her so that she will become nations, and kings of peoples will come from her.”
17 Abraham fell on his face and laughed. He said to himself, Can a 100-year-old man become a father, or Sarah, a 90-year-old woman, have a child? 18 To God Abraham said, “If only you would accept Ishmael!”
19 But God said, “No, your wife Sarah will give birth to a son for you, and you will name him Isaac. I will set up my covenant with him and with his descendants after him as an enduring covenant. 20 As for Ishmael, I’ve heard your request. I will bless him and make him fertile and give him many, many descendants. He will be the ancestor of twelve tribal leaders, and I will make a great nation of him. 21 But I will set up my covenant with Isaac, who will be born to Sarah at this time next year.” 22 When God finished speaking to him, God ascended, leaving Abraham alone.'
''Gen.17:
9 God said to Abraham, “As for you, you must keep my covenant, you and your descendants in every generation. 10 This is my covenant that you and your descendants must keep: Circumcise every male. 11 You must circumcise the flesh of your foreskins, and it will be a symbol of the covenant between us. 12 On the eighth day after birth, every male in every generation must be circumcised, including those who are not your own children: those born in your household and those purchased with silver from foreigners. 13 Be sure you circumcise those born in your household and those purchased with your silver. Your flesh will embody my covenant as an enduring covenant. 14 Any uncircumcised male whose flesh of his foreskin remains uncircumcised will be cut off from his people. He has broken my covenant.”
15 God said to Abraham, “As for your wife Sarai, you will no longer call her Sarai. Her name will now be Sarah. 16 I will bless her and even give you a son from her. I will bless her so that she will become nations, and kings of peoples will come from her.”
17 Abraham fell on his face and laughed. He said to himself, Can a 100-year-old man become a father, or Sarah, a 90-year-old woman, have a child? 18 To God Abraham said, “If only you would accept Ishmael!”
19 But God said, “No, your wife Sarah will give birth to a son for you, and you will name him Isaac.[d] I will set up my covenant with him and with his descendants after him as an enduring covenant. 20 As for Ishmael, I’ve heard your request. I will bless him and make him fertile and give him many, many descendants. He will be the ancestor of twelve tribal leaders, and I will make a great nation of him. 21 But I will set up my covenant with Isaac, who will be born to Sarah at this time next year.” 22 When God finished speaking to him, God ascended, leaving Abraham alone.''
Friday, July 29, 2016
Jewish Trinity
chrystians like to give the example of water to illustrate the concept of their triune deity. The example goes as follows: water can have three basic states- liquid, solid, and vapor, yet it is all the same water.
Here i'll try to explain how this example is not just wrong, but heretical and misleading. i'll also let u in on a secret- jews have the concept of 'trinity' too...
-true, water might have three basic states of matter it appears in, but to refer to water as ONLY interacting with us in ONLY these three ways would be EXTREMELY MISLEADING. moreover, it would DETRACT from the very ESSENCE of water- as the universal solvent, life giver, deliverer of nutrients, 90% or so of our bodies, etc.
To insist that we MUST approach the subject of water ''ONLY'' through its frozen form, would be grossly misleading. The MAIN quality of water is- it is EVERYWHERE. As a matter of fact, judaism compares Go'ds TORAH to life-giving water...
Water is NOT just these three states of being. Water is H²O within our bodies, it is falling from the sky, it is clouds, it is the oceans and rivers. It is the very blood flowing in our veins, as well as urine flushing out the impurities out of our bodies.
To focus on the three basic physical states water appears in would be misleading. and unnecessary... And lets remember of millions of innocent loyal jews who gave their lives for refusing to trivialize our Almighty Creator to such nonsensical arithmetic!!!
Go-d is INFINITE, UNLIMITED in every possible way- unbound by skin or heart beat or oxygen or physical wounds. Go'd is the CREATOR and the SUSTAINER of everything.
To insist that we need to approach Go-d's presence through some long gone brief supposed episode of being 'embodied' in certain jewish maveric individual named Josh is soooo senseless and MISLEADING to the whole spirit of monotheism!!!
In fact, according to the first, second, third and the ninth commandments of Go-d given Decalogue- it is plainly HERETICAL BLASPHEMY no different than Hindu worship of the murderous Ka li, or elephant Ga nesh or blueman Krish na...
Now about the JEWISH ''trinity'': three major tenets of judaism are: Go-d, His Torah, and Israel.
Why is it important? well, one might doubt that the Creator would be interested in continued relationship or moral conduct of His creation- hence our sages stress the unbroken bond between Go'd and humanity through His revealed will- duly 'notarized' for all generations in the form of Five Books of Moses, the oral transmission and the entity it was given to- the Children of Israel.
A final note- Go-d might have communicated with us through burning bush, talking donkey, angels, etc, yet nobody WORSHIPS those entities nor insists that we ''must'' approach Go'd solely through His donkey configuration😃
Here i'll try to explain how this example is not just wrong, but heretical and misleading. i'll also let u in on a secret- jews have the concept of 'trinity' too...
-true, water might have three basic states of matter it appears in, but to refer to water as ONLY interacting with us in ONLY these three ways would be EXTREMELY MISLEADING. moreover, it would DETRACT from the very ESSENCE of water- as the universal solvent, life giver, deliverer of nutrients, 90% or so of our bodies, etc.
To insist that we MUST approach the subject of water ''ONLY'' through its frozen form, would be grossly misleading. The MAIN quality of water is- it is EVERYWHERE. As a matter of fact, judaism compares Go'ds TORAH to life-giving water...
Water is NOT just these three states of being. Water is H²O within our bodies, it is falling from the sky, it is clouds, it is the oceans and rivers. It is the very blood flowing in our veins, as well as urine flushing out the impurities out of our bodies.
To focus on the three basic physical states water appears in would be misleading. and unnecessary... And lets remember of millions of innocent loyal jews who gave their lives for refusing to trivialize our Almighty Creator to such nonsensical arithmetic!!!
Go-d is INFINITE, UNLIMITED in every possible way- unbound by skin or heart beat or oxygen or physical wounds. Go'd is the CREATOR and the SUSTAINER of everything.
To insist that we need to approach Go-d's presence through some long gone brief supposed episode of being 'embodied' in certain jewish maveric individual named Josh is soooo senseless and MISLEADING to the whole spirit of monotheism!!!
In fact, according to the first, second, third and the ninth commandments of Go-d given Decalogue- it is plainly HERETICAL BLASPHEMY no different than Hindu worship of the murderous Ka li, or elephant Ga nesh or blueman Krish na...
Now about the JEWISH ''trinity'': three major tenets of judaism are: Go-d, His Torah, and Israel.
Why is it important? well, one might doubt that the Creator would be interested in continued relationship or moral conduct of His creation- hence our sages stress the unbroken bond between Go'd and humanity through His revealed will- duly 'notarized' for all generations in the form of Five Books of Moses, the oral transmission and the entity it was given to- the Children of Israel.
A final note- Go-d might have communicated with us through burning bush, talking donkey, angels, etc, yet nobody WORSHIPS those entities nor insists that we ''must'' approach Go'd solely through His donkey configuration😃
Thursday, January 21, 2016
Penetrating the logic of Xianity
I have trouble understanding how exactly does Jzs' three-day temporary mortification show Divine love?
Imagine working for a very old company; all your family worked for the same company, the same Boss, for generations. You have a very good contract, in which your Boss stipulates His expectations, and the benefits are unbelievable!!!
🏆 imagine one day your Boss calling u to his office: ''Johnny, this year, instead of giving u a raise, i will kill my favorite son in your honor! it will last three days, he'll get over it! And if u can't see how that shows my love for u- u are FIRED! And- u must believe that i'm really killing MYSELF here, even though i'll still be in my office, running the Company, while i'm dead for these three days. if u doubt it, u are fired too!'' 😱
•This added invented detail of theology has given Xtians an excuse to persecute and murder billions of people word-wide. ''Ye pagans are heretics for doubting Go-d's love through the temporary mortification of Jzs-who is 'god' himself! You ingrates, god 'kills' himself for u and u doubt him? Die pagans, or be condemned to die unsaved!!!•
🎯Why can't Go-d express His love by NOT killing anyone? Why are we now supposed to (according to NT) to stop following Go-ds eternal covenant? NT has the hubris to teach that whoever circumcises one's son in accordance with Go-ds will- is actually 'losing Go-ds grace'!!! 😕
🐍NT suggests that we stop living in accordance with Go-d's eternal Torah, calling it a ''curse''!!! Can u imagine such 'religion' which denies Go-d's own covenant??? Can anyone have any doubt that such cult, which venerates a long dead human being as an 'incarnation' of Divinity, is heresy???
🚽NT has totally messed up people's perceptions about right and wrong, about loyalty and morality! According to Xtian theology, there is no sin, for mr. Jzs has 'removed' the sin! 😑
So-logically,...according to Xtian bold faced calumnous blasphemy, we should abandon all morality, for supposedly 'god' has stopped caring about His Covenant!
~Strangely, Jews, Go-d's oldest and most faithful, had not gotten the memo!
🚨It's worth noting that not one word in NT has actually been written by mr.Jzs! NT was committed to writing about half century AFTER Mr. Jzs had ended his earthly residence!
Xtian scholars themselves readily admit that they aren't sure about the exact identity of the NT authors! (However, they are 'certain' that NT is 'true' -no matter who wrote it!!!)
How one can be so cavalier about discarding Go-d's word is beyond me!
...
Another vital point, which astonishes me the most-
IMHO, the biggest proof that NT dogma fell prey to a diabolical satanic plot of the 'Dark Side' to totally scramble and subvert the human brain and soul:
the 'fulfillment' claim!!!
🚧🚶 In a astoundingly sinister case of twisting Go'ds very covenant and turning it up side-down, the poor blind Xtians stupefyingly actually believe that they ARE INDEED ''following'' Go'ds will'' by ACTUALLY TOTALLY IGNORING IT!!!
Xtian astounding excuse is-since mr.Jzs has 'perfectly fulfilled' every area of Gd's law, we are 'free from its 'curse' and 'burden'!!!
Can u imagine calling Go-d's eternal holy covenant , a''curse'' and a 'burden??? While at the same time insisting that you are really 'following' it??? Can you imagine calling yourself ''dead'' to G-od's law, while at the same time insisting that you are ''fulfilling'' it through praying to a dead preacher?
How can POSSIBLY such 'religious' absurdity be true?
We see indeed the outcome of this deluded movement- thousands of years of genocide, crusades, forced baptisms, public burnings, confiscation of property, stealing of children, enslavement of entire CONTINENTS!!! How can one POSSIBLY believe that such religion comes from a pure source is beyond me!!!
How can one 'fulfill' loving one's neighbor, or giving charity, or honoring one's parents, or supporting the widow and the orphan? How can one dead guy's keeping Shabbat allow us to transgress this holy day? How can Jzs' fasting on Yom Kippur thousands of years ago permit us to stuff ourselves with forbidden food?
🌾How can Jzs' loyalty to his wife exempt us from being loyal to OUR spouses?
o, wait, Jzs wasn't married...
🔯🔯🔯🔯🔯🔯
WHY JZS ''SACRIFICE'' WASN'T •kosher•
💨Objections to Jzs' ''sacrifice''
1) Jzs supposedly 'knew' who and when was going to execute him. -if Jzs did NOTHING to save his life, it is tantamount to suicide. if u see a truck hurtling towards u, and u fail to move out of its way-u are indeed guilty of failing to guard your life.
2) xttians try to portray Jzs' death as a bona fide legitimate 'sin offering': but Torah never commanded to offer a human being- if one insists on going the strict legalistic route!
3) an offering which walks off the altar alive cannot be considered as 'offered'.
4) Xtians like to mention a verse of psalms that Jzs' bones were 'not broken' to accentuate his perfection as a sacrifice. But a sacrifice which is all bleeding and wounded from being nailed and whipped, regrettably cannot be considered 'undamaged'. Hence Xtian's own reasoning testifies against their sad attempts at theological 'proofs'.
5) no offering was ever worshiped as a 'god'.
6) no offering exempts from observing Go'ds commandments.
7) an offering which wasnt commanded nor called for, nor brought before Go'd -is considered an ABOMINATION, punished by DEATH , as we see by the sons of Aaron, who brought an offering which wasn't commanded- a heavenly fire has consumed them.
Jzs' execution was CERTAINLY not desired nor divinely commanded, for it achieved no purpose, and if indeed Jzs was expecting it and FAILED to protect his life- it was a grave sin!!!
°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°
🏁 to deem Go-d's holy commandments as 'not doable' or 'not efficacious' , is PURE HERESY.
Go-d gave us his Torah to GUIDE us and ELEVATE us, not to cause us to fail on a technicality.
Xtians paint Go-d as a mean spirited buerocrat, who won't forgive a sincere penitent until He receives His 'pound of flesh'!!!
Such abhorrent view of our Merciful Father is the chief reason why i'm so vehemently disposed to debunk Xtian heresy!
It is a blasphemy against Go-d, calling His guidance a 'curse' and a 'burden' which is 'impossible to fulfill'.
Torah isn't a 'checklist' to be 'fulfilled'. It is a recipe for sanctifying the world!
To say that Go-d 'cannot' or is 'unwilling' to forgive a truly penitent sinner, is an UGLY INSIDIOUS BLASPHEMY!!!
To say that Jzs has brought down 'grace' is to ascribe to Go-d a lack of love, which is simply not true. -it is a clear church self serving biased propaganda!!!
Imagine working for a very old company; all your family worked for the same company, the same Boss, for generations. You have a very good contract, in which your Boss stipulates His expectations, and the benefits are unbelievable!!!
🏆 imagine one day your Boss calling u to his office: ''Johnny, this year, instead of giving u a raise, i will kill my favorite son in your honor! it will last three days, he'll get over it! And if u can't see how that shows my love for u- u are FIRED! And- u must believe that i'm really killing MYSELF here, even though i'll still be in my office, running the Company, while i'm dead for these three days. if u doubt it, u are fired too!'' 😱
•This added invented detail of theology has given Xtians an excuse to persecute and murder billions of people word-wide. ''Ye pagans are heretics for doubting Go-d's love through the temporary mortification of Jzs-who is 'god' himself! You ingrates, god 'kills' himself for u and u doubt him? Die pagans, or be condemned to die unsaved!!!•
🎯Why can't Go-d express His love by NOT killing anyone? Why are we now supposed to (according to NT) to stop following Go-ds eternal covenant? NT has the hubris to teach that whoever circumcises one's son in accordance with Go-ds will- is actually 'losing Go-ds grace'!!! 😕
🐍NT suggests that we stop living in accordance with Go-d's eternal Torah, calling it a ''curse''!!! Can u imagine such 'religion' which denies Go-d's own covenant??? Can anyone have any doubt that such cult, which venerates a long dead human being as an 'incarnation' of Divinity, is heresy???
🚽NT has totally messed up people's perceptions about right and wrong, about loyalty and morality! According to Xtian theology, there is no sin, for mr. Jzs has 'removed' the sin! 😑
So-logically,...according to Xtian bold faced calumnous blasphemy, we should abandon all morality, for supposedly 'god' has stopped caring about His Covenant!
~Strangely, Jews, Go-d's oldest and most faithful, had not gotten the memo!
🚨It's worth noting that not one word in NT has actually been written by mr.Jzs! NT was committed to writing about half century AFTER Mr. Jzs had ended his earthly residence!
Xtian scholars themselves readily admit that they aren't sure about the exact identity of the NT authors! (However, they are 'certain' that NT is 'true' -no matter who wrote it!!!)
How one can be so cavalier about discarding Go-d's word is beyond me!
...
Another vital point, which astonishes me the most-
IMHO, the biggest proof that NT dogma fell prey to a diabolical satanic plot of the 'Dark Side' to totally scramble and subvert the human brain and soul:
the 'fulfillment' claim!!!
🚧🚶 In a astoundingly sinister case of twisting Go'ds very covenant and turning it up side-down, the poor blind Xtians stupefyingly actually believe that they ARE INDEED ''following'' Go'ds will'' by ACTUALLY TOTALLY IGNORING IT!!!
Xtian astounding excuse is-since mr.Jzs has 'perfectly fulfilled' every area of Gd's law, we are 'free from its 'curse' and 'burden'!!!
Can u imagine calling Go-d's eternal holy covenant , a''curse'' and a 'burden??? While at the same time insisting that you are really 'following' it??? Can you imagine calling yourself ''dead'' to G-od's law, while at the same time insisting that you are ''fulfilling'' it through praying to a dead preacher?
How can POSSIBLY such 'religious' absurdity be true?
We see indeed the outcome of this deluded movement- thousands of years of genocide, crusades, forced baptisms, public burnings, confiscation of property, stealing of children, enslavement of entire CONTINENTS!!! How can one POSSIBLY believe that such religion comes from a pure source is beyond me!!!
How can one 'fulfill' loving one's neighbor, or giving charity, or honoring one's parents, or supporting the widow and the orphan? How can one dead guy's keeping Shabbat allow us to transgress this holy day? How can Jzs' fasting on Yom Kippur thousands of years ago permit us to stuff ourselves with forbidden food?
🌾How can Jzs' loyalty to his wife exempt us from being loyal to OUR spouses?
o, wait, Jzs wasn't married...
🔯🔯🔯🔯🔯🔯
WHY JZS ''SACRIFICE'' WASN'T •kosher•
💨Objections to Jzs' ''sacrifice''
1) Jzs supposedly 'knew' who and when was going to execute him. -if Jzs did NOTHING to save his life, it is tantamount to suicide. if u see a truck hurtling towards u, and u fail to move out of its way-u are indeed guilty of failing to guard your life.
2) xttians try to portray Jzs' death as a bona fide legitimate 'sin offering': but Torah never commanded to offer a human being- if one insists on going the strict legalistic route!
3) an offering which walks off the altar alive cannot be considered as 'offered'.
4) Xtians like to mention a verse of psalms that Jzs' bones were 'not broken' to accentuate his perfection as a sacrifice. But a sacrifice which is all bleeding and wounded from being nailed and whipped, regrettably cannot be considered 'undamaged'. Hence Xtian's own reasoning testifies against their sad attempts at theological 'proofs'.
5) no offering was ever worshiped as a 'god'.
6) no offering exempts from observing Go'ds commandments.
7) an offering which wasnt commanded nor called for, nor brought before Go'd -is considered an ABOMINATION, punished by DEATH , as we see by the sons of Aaron, who brought an offering which wasn't commanded- a heavenly fire has consumed them.
Jzs' execution was CERTAINLY not desired nor divinely commanded, for it achieved no purpose, and if indeed Jzs was expecting it and FAILED to protect his life- it was a grave sin!!!
°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°
🏁 to deem Go-d's holy commandments as 'not doable' or 'not efficacious' , is PURE HERESY.
Go-d gave us his Torah to GUIDE us and ELEVATE us, not to cause us to fail on a technicality.
Xtians paint Go-d as a mean spirited buerocrat, who won't forgive a sincere penitent until He receives His 'pound of flesh'!!!
Such abhorrent view of our Merciful Father is the chief reason why i'm so vehemently disposed to debunk Xtian heresy!
It is a blasphemy against Go-d, calling His guidance a 'curse' and a 'burden' which is 'impossible to fulfill'.
Torah isn't a 'checklist' to be 'fulfilled'. It is a recipe for sanctifying the world!
To say that Go-d 'cannot' or is 'unwilling' to forgive a truly penitent sinner, is an UGLY INSIDIOUS BLASPHEMY!!!
To say that Jzs has brought down 'grace' is to ascribe to Go-d a lack of love, which is simply not true. -it is a clear church self serving biased propaganda!!!
Thursday, January 14, 2016
Moses vs. Jezes vs. Muhamad
Moses vs. Jezus vs. Muhamad
•Moses had it made! He was a step son of the most powerful ruler in the world! He was a prince living in the palace of the most luxurious and advanced civilization in the world!
Yet, when he saw an injustice being done, an Egyptian task master abusing a jewish slave, Moses' innate sense of justice came into play. He knowingly risked his life, his princely heritage, his everything! Go-d deemed him worthy to lead Jews out of slavery, to become a free independent nation, separate from egyptian pagan jackal- and ram-headed idols!
Torah states that Moses wasn't just the greatest prophet that ever lived (as quran affirms in sura 4:163-164), but also the MOST HUMBLE, the most selfless.
Only through such pure selfless soul could Gd entrust His timeless message!
•Jezus...
a son of a single mother, with disputed descent, unknown father. Yes he was educated and had the benefit of growing up among great sages of the time, he still merited to see the Second Temple standing. Instead of humbly learning at the sages' feet, he decided that he knows better!
He started going around insulting the holy rabbis, the legitimate shepherds of Israel. If N.T. is to be trusted at all, which is doubtful- he started going around telling adulterous women that their sin is 'forgiven'!!! Can u imagine? An adulterous wife, who according to Go'ds Torah is FORBIDDEN to live with her husband, is told by mr. Jezus that she's 'forgiven'???
If Xian N.T. is to be trusted, Jezus allowed his followers to PUBLICLY DESECRATE SHABBAT, declaring absurdly that he's a 'prince of Shabbat'!!! He might have had an excuse that it was an exceptional situation, where there was a danger of life - but it is highly unlikely! He was after all strolling about Galil's fields with his students, teaching them 'his version' of Torah! Didnt he know that Shabbat was coming?
We don't really know what exactly he held or did, because not one word of Xian NT was written by mr. Jezus. His 'disciples' wrote often conflicting stories about him. It is even doubtful which of his cultists even knew him in person, and which one of them had actually witnessed all the events described in NT. One thing is certain- NT is not written by any prophet, nor by Jezus.
it is full of anti-Jewish vituperation, calling holy sages 'sons of devil' and a 'synagogue of Satan'!!! It contains many heretical statements, for example stating that whoever circumcises their child will 'lose Go'ds grace'!!!
Jezus used his charisma to ELEVATE himself and to gain followers, not to bring them to Torah. Jezus did not support the Jews but continuously ATTACKED THEM!
NT does not contain any true prophecies. Jezus promised to return within the same generation...we're still waiting... True , NT states that the Temple ''will be destroyed'', but one can hardly call it a 'prophecy' since NT was actually written AFTER the Temple was already destroyed!!! Besides, Jeremiah's prophecy about the Temple was already widely known well before mr.Jzs. So we can hardly consider it mr.Jzs' 'prophecy'!
•Muhamad...
Muhamad was an orphaned, uneducated merchant apprentice. He'd married an older rich widow, which improved his social and economic standing. When he'd heard a voice while alone in a cave, he'd heard a voice. Doubting the source of this voice, he'd ran to his wife, asking HER what it was. After reassuring him that he wasn't crazy or possesed by a daemon, she encouraged Muhamad to share his voice's message with others.
Muzlims call the Quran a 'miracle', stating that it is miraculous that an ILLITERATE simple merchant was able to recite such poetry.
Well, it isn't so miraculous to be able to SPEAK! Arabic was after all Muhamad's native language. And he had RECITED it over TWENTY years, with OTHERS slowly writing it down for him... Hardly very miraculous. An arab merchant that can actually... speak arabic! Truly a miracle!!!
A quick glance at Quran's text will show that it is hardly a model of clarity. The language is redundantly repetitive, unclear, containing serious mistakes about judaism and xianity, stating for example that Jews consider Ezra a 'son of Gd' or that Mary was Aaron's SISTER! In sura 5:5 it states that kosher is the same as halal, which is certainly FALSE, as jewish dietary laws are much stricter than halal.
In any case, one wonders, if the Arabs had already KNOWN about Go'ds revelation at Sinai, which has occured about 2,000 years previously, why were they STILL worshipping idols?
Muhamad's message found a receptive ground- now Arabs could claim ''their own'' prophet, and feel superior to anyone who hasn't 'accepted' their prophet and honored him sufficiently by surrendering !!!
Muhamad used his receptive rapidly growing army of eager converts, to pillage, conquer & raid innocent merchant caravans, under the self-righteous excuse that 'their prophet's message' isn't accepted.
How do we know that it was ONLY AN EXCUSE TO CONQUER AND PILLAGE?
Simple! The Jewish merchants living among the Arabs had no trouble being Jewish and worshiping their Go'd in peace. The Jews didn't go around demanding that everyone 'accept' Judaism ''or else''!!! A forced conversion is NOT a conversion!!!
Muzlims too could have simply continued living in peace with everyone, peacefully spreading the message of One Go'd!
But , the newly 'converted' muzlims -used the excuse that others aren't accepting their prophet. They even held it against the Jews-who had lived in peace among the ''pagan'' Arabs.
It wasn't enough for Muhamad's zealots that the Jews HAD already THEIR Torah, received 2,000 years PREVIOUSLY from G'od HIMSELF, in PUBLIC, before the entire nation!!!
Jews didnt' NEED to ''affirm'' anything! Jews didn't need an unknown uneducated recently idol-worshiping Muhamad to tell them about some voices he'd heard in the cave!
Of course the newly minted muzlims took umbrage for ''their'' prophet's sake. They didn't care much about the MESSAGE, they mainly cared about the acceptance of their MESSANGER.
Muzlims proceeded to take example from their prophet- they continued to conquer, submit, force 'conversions' to islam. They took over city after city, kingdom after kingdom, non stop, until today.
It is CLEAR that they care about conquest and their pride MORE than about Allah.
Had they cared about Allah's honor, they'd leave the land of israel to the JEWS!
After all, it always was a well known fact- clearly CONFIRMED in Muhamad's own message- Jewish Torah is the true revelation of the true Go'd! Quran even CONFIRMS several times that Allah has given Israel and Jerusalem to the Jewish people!!! See Quran # 5:21, 7:161, 26:59, 17:104, 5:43, 10:94, 37:37, etc etc
It might even be argued that Quran COMMANDS Muzlims to open the Temple Mount to the Jews from comparing two verses in quran-one about an un-named sanctuary (referred to as ''Place of ,,Peace,, (jeru/Salem?) in sura 2:125. It isn't referring to Mecca, because a few verses later, #2:150 refers to Mecca!
Lastly, even if a Muzlim would discount the Jewish Scriptures, and his own quran,
out of SIMPLE decency, Muzlims should refrain from occupying the Temple Mount.
Jewish Temple is to jews an integral part of following Allah's will. Jews are commanded to bring sacrifices, various Temple-connected rituals etc.
EVERYONE is welcome to worship in Jerusalem Temple, as Isaiah 56 clearly states that Go'ds
is a ''HOUSE for ALL NATIONS'' !!!
Unlike Mecca, where nobody but muzlims are welcome, Judaism welcomes ALL, with no conquest, in any jewish house of worship!
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Thus we see that both muzlims and xians used their religion as an EXCUSE to conquer, pillage, and force others to accept 'their' messanger, even though the recipient was ALREADY WELL.AWARE about the message (never mind the messanger, isn't the MESSAGE that really matters?)Moses gave up EVERYTHING to selflessly lead the Jewish people to Sinai, through Egyptian bondage, through Amalekites' attack, through forty years of open public miracles, with pillar of fire and Clouds of Glory leading them.
Whereas Jezes and Muhamad used their newly-found status as 'Gd's ,,messanger,, to ATTACK and ABUSE the Jews (whose Torah they supposedly came to strengten and confirm)
Thursday, July 30, 2015
Zal's Jewhad
so... i'm having this ongoing convo, with this middle aged lady, very nice person, well meaning, who bless her, tries so hard to bring me to mr jeezes' side :-} ...
and the poor thing feels bad, bcuz all her familiar 'arguments' are evaporating.
She wrote me that i'm haughty and proud, bcuz i'm talking down to her, ''as if she's three years old''!
(my 'talking down' consists of me showing the verses she sends me- in their context, which nullifies her 'proofs')
so after the familiar string of the usual 'proofs', which i mostly remembered by heart, and showed her how it isn't in any way a proof about mr jezzs,
she again mentioned the 'blood'...
Rather than yet again bring up the verses about all other 'non-plasma-based' forms of obtaining Gd's forgiveness , (which i've already presented previously to her)
i told her that we DO indeed have a blood covenant with Gd: the circumcision.
She didnt like my answer, bcuz she piped up ''so what do u do, cut off another slice every time u sin?'' LoL
(which i liked, it might do well in a stand up comedy routine, if i ever decide to go that way!)
No, i explained, just as u dont expect mr jeezes to be crucified every year or so, once is enuff for our members too :->
And i explained that surely she understands that circumcision might be a covenant which involves some blood, but one does not bring one's foreskin as an offering. Sure she said.
-So why would bringing an ENTIRE human as an offering be better???
There's no mitzva to bring human sacrifice!!!
Sheep, meal offering, goats, incense. But no HUMAN!
(and as much as i resent mr.J for fomenting all that ill will toward the sages, i don't compare him to a goat or a sheep!)
Besides , if mr J was ABLE to save himself from death, and he did not,
it might be considered a very grevious transgression, to waste Gd's most precious gift- our very existence! to squander Go'ds gift of life is no small matter!
(at which point i've mentioned that i dont necessarily consider mr J such great role model- would u want YOUR child wondering around the countryside, cursing our respected spiritual leaders, an unmarried hobo... provoking the roman authorites and the jewish rabbis...?)
no, she protested, he didn't 'waste' his life! he died for our sins!
? really? and did it do any good? did people STOP sinning after jeezzus got temporarily deadened? and why would his 72 hr clinical death absolve an unrepentant sinner of any guilt? and if repentance is still required, why have mr jeezus 'die' at all, if his mere 'dying' doesn't do the trick???
...and, it wasn't even a 'real' death, bcuz it only lasted 72 hr...
...and how does it show G'ods love to let jeezus die? isnt more loving to REMAIN with his followers? to minister to them? be a 'father' to them? what's so 'loving' about spreading some doubts about the righteous rabbis, and then poof, disappearing?
My online friend didnt have any good answers to any of those...
All she was able to do was to repeat that 'he died for our sins'... sheesh.
At this point, xians like to throw in a jab at our holy sages, calling them 'nit-picking Pharisees', who were 'wilfully obstinate and blind' to the 'good news' of the redeemer arriving in Israel...
Which needs to be addressed. just as 'zionism' became a derogatory accusation, being accused of being a follower of 'pharisee rabbis' is supposedly an insult!!!
Why so? the word 'pharisee' comes from hebrew 'parish'-to separate oneself (from mundane pursuits, not from community)
The rabbis in jeezus' times were the rightful guardians of our faith! They were responsible to deal with any abberrations, heresy, divergent unkosher influences, etc etc.
The were OBLIGATED to investigate jeezus' claims and teachings!!! So they weren't 'nefarious' or 'stiff necked'. They were doing their JOB: making sure that no false claims or heretical teachings were being spread. Which there were. Jeezzus' strange claims about 'forgiving sins', bloodlessly or not, were pretty troubling, and not very kosher.
At which point i reminded her, that even Jzs' own mishpocha rejected him as messiah, as well as the sages! She didn't like that either...
We ended up with me restating that even if we side-step the issue of 'forgiving sin' in G'ods stead, etc, mr. Jeezs did not qualify as a jewish king, not being legally a kosher descendant of the Davidic dynasty, what with the parentage thing...
(Not to sneeze at having G'od Himself as the 'father', but having previously shown her the spuriousness of the 'immaculate' birth verses, she had seemed a bit wilted)
So, after showing her how all those verses about actual Davidic dynasty, which include actual children-SEED, -the best she could do was, to answer me that mr J will indeed grace our planet yet again, ''any day now'', and this time deciding to find himself a nice jewish wife, and'll raise a more 'traditional' family, returning triumphantly as a messiah, a king and an actual 'redeemer'...
o well, good luck with that i thought, and with this time around showing his Davidic PATERNAL descent (i didnt want to be a total jerk and call mr J you-know-what)
I basically told her that Gd wants us to LIVE as jews, not 'DIE', never mind for only '72 hours' !!! So Jeezzus' disappearing act isn't very kosher. If Jzs wanted to be our leader, why didnt he actually LEAD??? Why did he disappear after mere three year teaching career? If you cant lead, get out of the kitchen! (which apparently he DID)
Her weak rejoinder that Jezzus is ''in heaven on Gd's footstool etc'', I answered that I'll leave Jzs playing on his 'stool', while we'll continue praying for a REAL messiah, REAL peace, REAL Temple and a REAL leader, not an imaginary one 'up up there'...
So, i'm not sure if i've accomplished anything?
Some hold that it is an obligation to help nonjews out of idol worship, and the views are divided: if praying to mr J=idol worship or not?
It is referred to as 'sheetfus'-''partnership'''...or is it a straight up avoda zara, idolatry?
Hard to decide, as the gentiles themselves aren't sure what they hold?
is mr J , a 'god',? 'son of 'god'? both? part of 'god'? part of three? separate but equal??? is mr J 'one' or 'one with Gd'? or 1/3rd of Gd?
oy vey...
of course they also lump together the concept of 'god', messiah, prophet...
Missionaries seem to get confused when i dont bother disputing their claims about Jzs' miraculous exploits: multiplying food, curing the sick, exorcising pigs...
(pigs? in israel? wth?)
My take is, if there were some spooky powers, or if people believed that there were, so what? It does not prove that jezes was a 'god'. Remember, jews arent as easy to impress :-) We had Gd split the sea for us, lead us for 40 years with a pillar of fire, strike Egypt with ten plagues, feed us manna and quail... and of course gave us the Torah, publicly, not in secret-hush hush in some cave, but in full view of entire nation!
Yep, jews are a hard nut to crack, we don't impress easy :-)
I've been around some heavy-duty rabbinical mojo, hassidic/kabbalistic serious displays of Force! it takes a LOT more than some extra fish or some poor demonized porkers to convert us!!!
I've seen or heard of pretty impressive cases of healings, nature acting 'unnatural', miraculous predictions and interventions...
Yep, color me inured :-)
So, while those poor missionaries are salivating at my expected astonishment at Jebus' heroic exploits, I'll demurely let them talk without trying to deny it or anything...
When they're done, when i'm sure that they got their 'good news' off their excited little chests, I'd explain that yes, i've seen/heard about many miraculous events...and i understand their excitement :-}
...however...
it takes more than mere miracles to 'make it' as the 'jewish messiah'.
(I'd leave it unsaid that it might be enuff for being a 'goyish messiah' ...
but a JEWISH one? we'll need actual results: peace in israel, peace in the world, the temple back in bizness, etc.)
Of course i have my prophetic sources pretty much down pat, which aint a great feat, with so many wonderful missionary-busting youtube clips, websites such as drazin.com, outreachjudaism.org, and jewsforjudaism, both .org and .ca!
Mind you, i'm not knocking on poor gentiles' doors, demanding they relinquish jeezs! i'm just standing up for us, on multifaith discussion forums, where judaism is so often attacked or put down.
With xianity and islam slugging it out mightily on public media, as well as on battle fields, i think the world deserves to be reminded that it was judaism and our Torah that introduced our planet to One Creator for entire humanity!
With all those centuries of jews being afraid to stand up for our faith! i'm reminding everyone, jews AND non-jews, that THEIR religion is merely a modified version of the covenant we've been trying to keep, while being forcibly baptized, killed, burned at stake, or at least discriminated against.
And now those shmoes have the unmitigated hubris (love that phrase !) to tell us their 'good news' about jebus' grace!!!
Grace??? Xians have hundreds of years of persecuting jews, pagans and muslims under their belts, and now they have the chutzpa (see : unmitigated hubris :-)
to try telling us about jezzus' MERCY??? that genius spent his 'ministry' turning over tables at our Temple and calling our holy rabbis 'sons of devil' and 'vipers' !!!
Is that how u show people Gd's love???
so I try to share OUR 'good news'-, both to our jewish and non-jewish friends:
all those absolutely beautiful psalms, emanating Go'ds love and mutual yearning!
No, i'd tell those well-meaning, but insulting missionaries, your deluded messiah or whatever he held himself to be, he didnt 'invent' grace!
Gd created us, not mr jeezs. Gd took jews out of egypt. not mr. jeezs.
Gd sustains us. Had sustained us through crusades and inquisitions and pogroms and holocausts. Every breath is Go'd-given. not 'jeezs-given'...
i see many non jews becoming less pushy with their jeezs .
many are beginning to see that their 'good news' might not always be so good...
and the truth begins to o so slowly to percolate:
Go'd is bigger than some dead self-proclaimed 'savior' who promised 'redemption' but ended up causing millions of innocent deaths...
Go'd should unite us.
not failed jeezs, not militant muhammad. One Creator. one humanity... respecting and supporting each other ...
Be careful trying to add to this simple idea. trying to mess with this plan has proven dangerous to everyone's health.
and the poor thing feels bad, bcuz all her familiar 'arguments' are evaporating.
She wrote me that i'm haughty and proud, bcuz i'm talking down to her, ''as if she's three years old''!
(my 'talking down' consists of me showing the verses she sends me- in their context, which nullifies her 'proofs')
so after the familiar string of the usual 'proofs', which i mostly remembered by heart, and showed her how it isn't in any way a proof about mr jezzs,
she again mentioned the 'blood'...
Rather than yet again bring up the verses about all other 'non-plasma-based' forms of obtaining Gd's forgiveness , (which i've already presented previously to her)
i told her that we DO indeed have a blood covenant with Gd: the circumcision.
She didnt like my answer, bcuz she piped up ''so what do u do, cut off another slice every time u sin?'' LoL
(which i liked, it might do well in a stand up comedy routine, if i ever decide to go that way!)
No, i explained, just as u dont expect mr jeezes to be crucified every year or so, once is enuff for our members too :->
And i explained that surely she understands that circumcision might be a covenant which involves some blood, but one does not bring one's foreskin as an offering. Sure she said.
-So why would bringing an ENTIRE human as an offering be better???
There's no mitzva to bring human sacrifice!!!
Sheep, meal offering, goats, incense. But no HUMAN!
(and as much as i resent mr.J for fomenting all that ill will toward the sages, i don't compare him to a goat or a sheep!)
Besides , if mr J was ABLE to save himself from death, and he did not,
it might be considered a very grevious transgression, to waste Gd's most precious gift- our very existence! to squander Go'ds gift of life is no small matter!
(at which point i've mentioned that i dont necessarily consider mr J such great role model- would u want YOUR child wondering around the countryside, cursing our respected spiritual leaders, an unmarried hobo... provoking the roman authorites and the jewish rabbis...?)
no, she protested, he didn't 'waste' his life! he died for our sins!
? really? and did it do any good? did people STOP sinning after jeezzus got temporarily deadened? and why would his 72 hr clinical death absolve an unrepentant sinner of any guilt? and if repentance is still required, why have mr jeezus 'die' at all, if his mere 'dying' doesn't do the trick???
...and, it wasn't even a 'real' death, bcuz it only lasted 72 hr...
...and how does it show G'ods love to let jeezus die? isnt more loving to REMAIN with his followers? to minister to them? be a 'father' to them? what's so 'loving' about spreading some doubts about the righteous rabbis, and then poof, disappearing?
My online friend didnt have any good answers to any of those...
All she was able to do was to repeat that 'he died for our sins'... sheesh.
At this point, xians like to throw in a jab at our holy sages, calling them 'nit-picking Pharisees', who were 'wilfully obstinate and blind' to the 'good news' of the redeemer arriving in Israel...
Which needs to be addressed. just as 'zionism' became a derogatory accusation, being accused of being a follower of 'pharisee rabbis' is supposedly an insult!!!
Why so? the word 'pharisee' comes from hebrew 'parish'-to separate oneself (from mundane pursuits, not from community)
The rabbis in jeezus' times were the rightful guardians of our faith! They were responsible to deal with any abberrations, heresy, divergent unkosher influences, etc etc.
The were OBLIGATED to investigate jeezus' claims and teachings!!! So they weren't 'nefarious' or 'stiff necked'. They were doing their JOB: making sure that no false claims or heretical teachings were being spread. Which there were. Jeezzus' strange claims about 'forgiving sins', bloodlessly or not, were pretty troubling, and not very kosher.
At which point i reminded her, that even Jzs' own mishpocha rejected him as messiah, as well as the sages! She didn't like that either...
We ended up with me restating that even if we side-step the issue of 'forgiving sin' in G'ods stead, etc, mr. Jeezs did not qualify as a jewish king, not being legally a kosher descendant of the Davidic dynasty, what with the parentage thing...
(Not to sneeze at having G'od Himself as the 'father', but having previously shown her the spuriousness of the 'immaculate' birth verses, she had seemed a bit wilted)
So, after showing her how all those verses about actual Davidic dynasty, which include actual children-SEED, -the best she could do was, to answer me that mr J will indeed grace our planet yet again, ''any day now'', and this time deciding to find himself a nice jewish wife, and'll raise a more 'traditional' family, returning triumphantly as a messiah, a king and an actual 'redeemer'...
o well, good luck with that i thought, and with this time around showing his Davidic PATERNAL descent (i didnt want to be a total jerk and call mr J you-know-what)
I basically told her that Gd wants us to LIVE as jews, not 'DIE', never mind for only '72 hours' !!! So Jeezzus' disappearing act isn't very kosher. If Jzs wanted to be our leader, why didnt he actually LEAD??? Why did he disappear after mere three year teaching career? If you cant lead, get out of the kitchen! (which apparently he DID)
Her weak rejoinder that Jezzus is ''in heaven on Gd's footstool etc'', I answered that I'll leave Jzs playing on his 'stool', while we'll continue praying for a REAL messiah, REAL peace, REAL Temple and a REAL leader, not an imaginary one 'up up there'...
So, i'm not sure if i've accomplished anything?
Some hold that it is an obligation to help nonjews out of idol worship, and the views are divided: if praying to mr J=idol worship or not?
It is referred to as 'sheetfus'-''partnership'''...or is it a straight up avoda zara, idolatry?
Hard to decide, as the gentiles themselves aren't sure what they hold?
is mr J , a 'god',? 'son of 'god'? both? part of 'god'? part of three? separate but equal??? is mr J 'one' or 'one with Gd'? or 1/3rd of Gd?
oy vey...
of course they also lump together the concept of 'god', messiah, prophet...
Missionaries seem to get confused when i dont bother disputing their claims about Jzs' miraculous exploits: multiplying food, curing the sick, exorcising pigs...
(pigs? in israel? wth?)
My take is, if there were some spooky powers, or if people believed that there were, so what? It does not prove that jezes was a 'god'. Remember, jews arent as easy to impress :-) We had Gd split the sea for us, lead us for 40 years with a pillar of fire, strike Egypt with ten plagues, feed us manna and quail... and of course gave us the Torah, publicly, not in secret-hush hush in some cave, but in full view of entire nation!
Yep, jews are a hard nut to crack, we don't impress easy :-)
I've been around some heavy-duty rabbinical mojo, hassidic/kabbalistic serious displays of Force! it takes a LOT more than some extra fish or some poor demonized porkers to convert us!!!
I've seen or heard of pretty impressive cases of healings, nature acting 'unnatural', miraculous predictions and interventions...
Yep, color me inured :-)
So, while those poor missionaries are salivating at my expected astonishment at Jebus' heroic exploits, I'll demurely let them talk without trying to deny it or anything...
When they're done, when i'm sure that they got their 'good news' off their excited little chests, I'd explain that yes, i've seen/heard about many miraculous events...and i understand their excitement :-}
...however...
it takes more than mere miracles to 'make it' as the 'jewish messiah'.
(I'd leave it unsaid that it might be enuff for being a 'goyish messiah' ...
but a JEWISH one? we'll need actual results: peace in israel, peace in the world, the temple back in bizness, etc.)
Of course i have my prophetic sources pretty much down pat, which aint a great feat, with so many wonderful missionary-busting youtube clips, websites such as drazin.com, outreachjudaism.org, and jewsforjudaism, both .org and .ca!
Mind you, i'm not knocking on poor gentiles' doors, demanding they relinquish jeezs! i'm just standing up for us, on multifaith discussion forums, where judaism is so often attacked or put down.
With xianity and islam slugging it out mightily on public media, as well as on battle fields, i think the world deserves to be reminded that it was judaism and our Torah that introduced our planet to One Creator for entire humanity!
With all those centuries of jews being afraid to stand up for our faith! i'm reminding everyone, jews AND non-jews, that THEIR religion is merely a modified version of the covenant we've been trying to keep, while being forcibly baptized, killed, burned at stake, or at least discriminated against.
And now those shmoes have the unmitigated hubris (love that phrase !) to tell us their 'good news' about jebus' grace!!!
Grace??? Xians have hundreds of years of persecuting jews, pagans and muslims under their belts, and now they have the chutzpa (see : unmitigated hubris :-)
to try telling us about jezzus' MERCY??? that genius spent his 'ministry' turning over tables at our Temple and calling our holy rabbis 'sons of devil' and 'vipers' !!!
Is that how u show people Gd's love???
so I try to share OUR 'good news'-, both to our jewish and non-jewish friends:
all those absolutely beautiful psalms, emanating Go'ds love and mutual yearning!
No, i'd tell those well-meaning, but insulting missionaries, your deluded messiah or whatever he held himself to be, he didnt 'invent' grace!
Gd created us, not mr jeezs. Gd took jews out of egypt. not mr. jeezs.
Gd sustains us. Had sustained us through crusades and inquisitions and pogroms and holocausts. Every breath is Go'd-given. not 'jeezs-given'...
i see many non jews becoming less pushy with their jeezs .
many are beginning to see that their 'good news' might not always be so good...
and the truth begins to o so slowly to percolate:
Go'd is bigger than some dead self-proclaimed 'savior' who promised 'redemption' but ended up causing millions of innocent deaths...
Go'd should unite us.
not failed jeezs, not militant muhammad. One Creator. one humanity... respecting and supporting each other ...
Be careful trying to add to this simple idea. trying to mess with this plan has proven dangerous to everyone's health.
Thursday, July 2, 2015
Christianity Disproved
Christianity disproved:
G'od's our redeemer, not some dead self proclaimed 'savior' who didnt even bother saving himself. Jzs did not save anyone, just the opposite.
Isaiah 43, as far as i'm concerned, announces in a CRYSTAL CLEAR message: G'od is our 'REDEEMER' & 'Savior'. not Buddha. not k'rishna. not Jzs.
I don't know how much more clear can u put it?
(Isaiah 43:11) ''I, yes I, am A'donai; besides me there is no deliverer.
12 I have declared, saved and proclaimed —
not some alien god among you.
Therefore you are my witnesses,”
says A'donai. “I am G od.
13 Since days began, I have been he.
No one can deliver from my hand.
When I act, who can reverse it?”
....
(isaiah 43: 25) ''I, yes I, am the one who blots out
your offenses for my own sake;
I will not remember your sins.''
....
G'od forgives our sins. G'od saves us and redeems us. no-one else.
Yes, we are born with earthly desires for bodily pleasures, for riches, for revenge etc.
That does not mean that we are born 'cursed' or 'condemned to hell'!
It isn't our fault, it is the way G'od has created us. And, only G'od can forgive our sins, not some self-proclaimed 'savior' who didnt even save himself.
Jzs's death did not stop anyone from dying. People didnt stop sinning or killing or hungering for forbidden pleasures.
Jzs did not rule as a king. He did not rebuild the Temple. He did not increase the observance of Torah among Jews, nor did he gather all jews from the exile.
Jzs' followers started worshipping HIM, instead of G'od, inventing all kinds of bizzare false baseless doctrines like 'trinity', 'virgin birth' not found in Torah, or self-serving church propaganda, such as a 'spiritual temple' -instead of an ACTUAL one...
Newt Testment cannot be considered as 'prophetic', for it was not written by prophets. Not even by Torah scholars! Many parts of the N.T. are of UNKNOWN authorship! Others are KNOWN to be written half century AFTER Jzs' death.
The writers of N.T...were fishermen and tax collectors, hardly an authority to bet one's eternal soul on!
Xtians quote Jzs as saying: 'know the tree by its fruit'...
Perhaps Jzs, not being a real prophet, did not foresee how much bloodshed his followers would cause: Crusades, Inquisition, Genocide of ,,pagans,, auto da fes, pogroms, slavery, forced baptisms and blood libels...
About Jzs 'blood sacrifice':
1. Jzs did NOT die for our sins. He died as result of HIS OWN actions, i.e. his failure, his REFUSAL, to hide or even defend himself against the charges. So it wasnt his 'sacrifice' but his own fault.
2. Jzs didnt 'save' anyone. Was anyone's death penalty repealed? Was any decree anulled bcuz of his self-inflicted death???
3. Torah does not count HUMAN sacrifice as a way of atoning of sins.
4. A sacrifice which comes back to life (as Jzs was believed to by his followers) is not considered 'kosher'.
If a priest offers a sheep or a goat, and it somehow comes back to life, it wouldnt be considered a 'kosher' sacrifice.
5. did Jzs 'conquer' death???
If he had lived for nine hundred years, that might be considered as 'conquerring' death. But awaking from a three-day coma??? That's not real death... And, news flash: people are STILL dying. So death isn't ''conquered''.
6. jzs was NOT sinless. Suicide is a serious sin.
Allowing his students to break Shabbat is a serious sin- publicly desecrating Gd's day of rest is a tremendous desecration.of Go'ds Name.
Implying that one is a 'god', leading BILLIONS to be guilty of heresy and blasphemy and of taking G'od's Name in vain???
How great is such sin??? so no, Jzs was not sinless.
.....
check below for sources to explore further:
www.leavingjesus.com
www.askmoses.com
www.outreachjudaism.org
www.jewsForJudaism.org
www.jewsForJudaism.ca
www.aish.com
www.chabad.org
www.noahide.net
www.noahide.com
http://outreachjudaism.org/original-sin/
Tuesday, September 30, 2014
how xianity fails to use the power of Gd's life giving elixir
'MEDICINE 4 human soul'- a metaphor.
(the religions are the medicine.
the doctors are the respective priests.)
we all are the patients...
in judaism we know from where the commandments come, our medicine for our soul, comes from Gd.
Written torah is our doctor's 'prescription'.
Gd is the great Scientist who gave us his life-restoring elixir of his commandments' light.
now, drX foolishly tries to improve on the perfect life giving elixir from Gd (torah commandments) by mixing his own unproven recipe.
he decides that the patient doesnt need to take the medicine!
he decides that it is equally effective if the patient confesses all his ills to the doctor, and since one of the famous patients in the past,Jerry, had gone through similar treatment, that patient can be considered equal to the original Scientist (Gd) who crafted the medicine.
now the doctor decided that the acceptance of the medical treatment by this now deceased famous patient (Jerry) has made jerry equally as smart as the Scientist.
not only that, but jerry was such great patient, that all future patients need only to declare their trust and admiration at Jerry, and... they will be cured!!!
no actual medical treatment needed, for Jerry's treatment has 'fulfilled' all other treatments, and Jerry became like the Scientist incarnated.
Jerry was so good, that he is also the medicine itself.
if one eats any food and declares that this is Jerry's body, he'll be sutomatically cured!
and Jerry, he's also the hospital where the treatment is being administered...
and all who dare to doubt Jerry's powers and insist on taking the actual medicine prescribed by the great Scientist will never get better for they spurned great jerry's sacrifice!!!
(the religions are the medicine.
the doctors are the respective priests.)
we all are the patients...
in judaism we know from where the commandments come, our medicine for our soul, comes from Gd.
Written torah is our doctor's 'prescription'.
Gd is the great Scientist who gave us his life-restoring elixir of his commandments' light.
now, drX foolishly tries to improve on the perfect life giving elixir from Gd (torah commandments) by mixing his own unproven recipe.
he decides that the patient doesnt need to take the medicine!
he decides that it is equally effective if the patient confesses all his ills to the doctor, and since one of the famous patients in the past,Jerry, had gone through similar treatment, that patient can be considered equal to the original Scientist (Gd) who crafted the medicine.
now the doctor decided that the acceptance of the medical treatment by this now deceased famous patient (Jerry) has made jerry equally as smart as the Scientist.
not only that, but jerry was such great patient, that all future patients need only to declare their trust and admiration at Jerry, and... they will be cured!!!
no actual medical treatment needed, for Jerry's treatment has 'fulfilled' all other treatments, and Jerry became like the Scientist incarnated.
Jerry was so good, that he is also the medicine itself.
if one eats any food and declares that this is Jerry's body, he'll be sutomatically cured!
and Jerry, he's also the hospital where the treatment is being administered...
and all who dare to doubt Jerry's powers and insist on taking the actual medicine prescribed by the great Scientist will never get better for they spurned great jerry's sacrifice!!!
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